But then again you might do like me and stay out of the Tibet debate, which I know way too little about, and be against the way Chine is not willing to fullfill the human right laws set by the UN. Not that the UN is any more holy than everyone else, but I believe all people should have basic human rights, and those are set in the UN human rights laws. PS. Don't know if they are laws or a treaty, but the end result is the same, and I do know that the US don't uphold basic human right either but that does not let China off the hook so to speak.